Do you believe law enforcement offices should be held responsible for setting free back into society illegal aliens who commit more serious and drastic crimes?
Would more lawsuits like this force law enforcement officers to do their jobs and stop releasing these people back into society?
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CityDeputies failed to report illegal immigrant’s status, lawsuit says
by Steve Mayes
Thursday August 13, 2009
OREGON CITY — The family of a Texas girl murdered in 2007 is suing Clackamas County, claiming law enforcement officers knew her killer illegally entered the United States and failed to report him to immigration authorities.
The estate of Dani Countryman is seeking $3.5 million in damages, according to the Clackamas County Circuit Court filing.
Countryman, 15, died during a sexual assault July 28, 2007, after an all-night party at an Oak Grove apartment complex. She was in Oregon visiting relatives.
Edward S. McGlone III, assistant Clackamas County counsel, declined to comment on the complaint.
Alejandro Emeterio "Alex" Rivera Gamboa, 26, was sentenced to life in prison, with the possibility of parole after 35 years. He attempted to subdue Countryman, fatally choking her, as his cousin, Gilberto Javier "Gabe" Arellano Gamboa, tried to rape her.
Arellano Gamboa, 25, was sentenced to five years, 10 months in prison.
Both men were in the country illegally and will be deported to Mexico after serving their sentences.
The lawsuit claims that a Clackamas County probation officer and unnamed sheriff’s office employees failed to report Rivera Gamboa to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
The Oregonian reported that Rivera Gamboa pleaded guilty to drunken driving in November 2006. He signed a plea agreement that stated he was not a U.S. citizen and was released without anyone in the criminal justice system notifying immigration authorities.
–Steve Mayes; stevemayes@news.oregonian.com
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2009/08/deputies_failed_to_report_ille.html
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EDIT: Answer question, no ranting about my choices.
The question was not about citizens, it was about illegal aliens who are not suppose to be here. Please answer the question posted?
greasy, you are ranting, this is not an answer to the question posted. And contains non-relevant links to external sites or other questions and is promoting your own blog or website
Yes and I agree with Sasori. Plus, both men should be executed.
Additional Information: Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was made law in the United States in 1996 as a result of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA). Section 287(g) authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to enter into agreements with state and local law enforcement agencies, permitting designated officers to perform immigration law enforcement functions, pursuant to a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA), provided that the local law enforcement officers receive appropriate training and function under the supervision of sworn U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Under 287(g), ICE provides state and local law enforcement with the training and subsequent authorization to identify, process, and when appropriate, detain immigration offenders they encounter during their regular, daily law-enforcement activity.
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The way it was explained to me by someone I know with several years of experience as an immigration officer, not all police agencies that arrest illegal aliens contact ICE or the Border Patrol to come and pick them up. He said some police departments call but not all. Degrees of cooperation vary tremendously.
For example, in Buffalo, the Border Patrol had a station, and they did very good liaison work with the local police department, so the police department called the Border Patrol when there is a case of an illegal alien.
Another example is in Boston, there is no Border Patrol, just ICE. If the relationship between the Boston Police Department and ICE is good, they’ll call. In Las Vegas, they call ICE more often than ICE would like. However, in Los Angeles, the police officers would never call based on just an illegal alien (with no hard criminal record).
In New York City (another sanctuary city), the police officers would never call ICE for an illegal alien unless that person is involved in a hard crime. The mayor of New York City will never address that issue.
My answer is NO!. If this was the case, there would be a lot of lawsuits from the crimes comitted when US citizens were released to.
Did you find this by visiting Oregonlive.com? or did you find the link on ALIPAC? because they have the article and the link on their site, and try to inform people on Mexican illegals all the time…..Hmmm! like somebody on here. LOL!
http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White+Supremacists+Promote+ALIPAC.htm
White Supremacists Promote ALIPAC and Take Action on its Behalf
As many anti-immigrant groups blur the line between discussions of immigration policy and outright bigotry towards non-white immigrants, white supremacists and anti-Semites have become increasingly supportive of those groups whose rhetoric matches their own anti-immigrant sentiment. Extremists exploit the legitimacy of these anti-immigrant groups to advance their own hateful ideology and possibly expand recruitment.
EDIT: Ranting? no..I’m going into detail on my answer, and my question pertains to the link on your question…….sticking to the subject. LOL! I’m not promoting anything, I’m simply making it clear what kind of source you are using, and you didn’t ask my question.
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Only if the government is not doing enough. Both of these men are getting long prison terms. You do have the right to do so anyway.
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It all depends if the local law enforcement authorities participate in the program called ICE 287g. It’s when local law enforcement authorities are capactiated to act as Immigration Officers with the objective of detaining and deporting illegal criminals. Check with the law enforcement authorities in your county to see if they have implemented this yet. If your county doesn’t participate in this, then it’s difficult to round up a bunch of illegals and deport them; many walk free even after being let out for certain state crimes.
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no! because immigration status doesn’t make them violent criminals. Now if this person wasn’t an illegal, would they have been making a big fuss? probably not.
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Yes, I do!!! Greasy can stick some of his comments up his grasy azz. There has been more killings where I live from the illegal pieces of crap that comes here illegally. What if it was your family member? I know what you would do, get even you or yours would go out and kill, get revenge, but its wrong for us to sue? Wait until they see what they get in prison….they only thing is I would not get to see the look on their faces when the prisons makes them bend over to pull up their own socks…… they will be paid back in the end….
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A person died during a rape and the criminals are only getting a little under six years for it? That’s absurd!! There is something terrible wrong with the legal system when a murderer only gets sentenced to about 3.5 years with good time.
That aside, yes! The deputies were negligent and should be held accountable for their failure to do their job. Somebody died because they were being lazy or irresponsible.
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Yes, they should. If more citizens sued, we would see serious anti illegal alien action from those with authority.
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I agree with Mickey. Anytime an Americans life is affected by illegals they need to sue either their city, state or the Federal government. Which every applies.
When they know Americans are going to hold them accountable for their neglect they will find an adequate solution in no time at all. And it won’t be amnesty.
This should also hold true for LPR’s. I know of several who have DUI convictions and they are still here in the US. Anyone who is not a citizen and puts citizens at risk by their behavior should be immediately deported.
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Yes and I agree with Sasori. Plus, both men should be executed.
Additional Information: Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) was made law in the United States in 1996 as a result of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA). Section 287(g) authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to enter into agreements with state and local law enforcement agencies, permitting designated officers to perform immigration law enforcement functions, pursuant to a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA), provided that the local law enforcement officers receive appropriate training and function under the supervision of sworn U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Under 287(g), ICE provides state and local law enforcement with the training and subsequent authorization to identify, process, and when appropriate, detain immigration offenders they encounter during their regular, daily law-enforcement activity.
More Additional Information:
The way it was explained to me by someone I know with several years of experience as an immigration officer, not all police agencies that arrest illegal aliens contact ICE or the Border Patrol to come and pick them up. He said some police departments call but not all. Degrees of cooperation vary tremendously.
For example, in Buffalo, the Border Patrol had a station, and they did very good liaison work with the local police department, so the police department called the Border Patrol when there is a case of an illegal alien.
Another example is in Boston, there is no Border Patrol, just ICE. If the relationship between the Boston Police Department and ICE is good, they’ll call. In Las Vegas, they call ICE more often than ICE would like. However, in Los Angeles, the police officers would never call based on just an illegal alien (with no hard criminal record).
In New York City (another sanctuary city), the police officers would never call ICE for an illegal alien unless that person is involved in a hard crime. The mayor of New York City will never address that issue.
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YES the county should be sued and both perpetrators should get the death penalty !!!
would not matter to me if they were citizens—–THEY RAPED AND KILLED A CHILD—— death penalty !!!!
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That is actually a brilliant idea. Once law enforcement has these people in custody, under no circumstances should they ever be set free in this country. If they need to be release, send them back. To allow a criminal to go free, and in doing so, continue to break laws (just by being here) is criminal in itself. I don’t care if it is mass murder, or the theft of a bicycle, the agency that lets an illegal back out onto US streets should be held accountable.
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Good idea !
Now, make another lawsuite when a criminal, legal or ilegal, is released and kills again
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well then i guess we should file lawsuits for each american that commits crimes as well, what a stupid question
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I say yes. Given opportunity they (criminals) file lawsuits against us. Illegal or not I will add.
I don’t blame law enforcement though. I do blame the system, and the city commissioners who happen to make those decisions. The governor should be held accountable as well. Kulongoski has done nothing to keep them out of the state or off the streets after being given millions of dollars to deal with illegals.
The following links address the link that Greasy has posted, since he seems to have stopped using SPLC for his arguments, and has found another most like them.. The links tell who the real bigots are, and how to spot them.
Southern Poverty Law Center: Activities, Agendas, and Worldview
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/splcworldview.html
Excerpt: "The SPLC’s ideological biases are evident in its map of Active U.S. Hate Groups. Although the SPLC denounces extremist religious groups like the Jewish Defense League and Westboro Baptist Church, no mention is made of even a single extremist Muslim group. Similarly, while far-right groups like the Council of Conservative Citizens are tagged as hate groups, the SPLC withholds judgment on extremist leftwing groups. The aforementioned Intelligence Project, an SPLC initiative that monitors hate and extremist groups around the United States, is conspicuously selective in its scrutiny. Whereas rightwing groups are routinely the subjects of Intelligence Project reports, the political left, as evidenced by the dearth of critical literature, is above suspicion. In 2003, for instance, the SPLC hosted a forum called “Right-Wing Extremism in a Transatlantic Perspective,” which, as one SPLC report noted, sought to develop strategies to combat “the radical right.” Of the radical left, no mention was made."
How To Recognize The Bigot In The Argument
The Hate/Fear Tactic
Demeaning The Motivations Of Your Opponent
http://pages.prodigy.net/krtq73aa/bigot.htm
Excerpt: "The technique of the SPLC is remarkably similar to that used by the ADL (our next subject) against Conservatives for over 90 years. It is not surprising that a group with such techniques would fail to acknowledge that most extremism over the past two centuries has come from the Left not Right of center, from those who sought to repudiate not vindicate traditional values; would fail to acknowledge that most terrorists have been adherents to Socialist and Egalitarian movements, few indeed in favor of affirming heritage. Perusing SPLC articles, an informed Conservative will quickly perceive that their interpretation of tolerance bears no semblance to what the word means to the rest of the English speaking world.
The Tolerance Project involves a sometimes subtle, often overt, linking of small ineffective groups, which may actually display an inordinate degree of negative motivation and hateful sentiment, with others who simply share one trait in common with the first. That shared trait is often an ideological principle for which the Left has no answer but to smear by tortured association–such as a commitment to the traditional American belief in individual responsibility and limited Government.
Thus a recent article on what the SPLC labeled "Patriot Movement," linked such outspoken and effective advocates of traditional American values as J. J. Johnson, Howard Phillips (of the Constitution Party) and Larry Pratt (Gun Owners Of America) with some individuals discredited by personal conduct, who had at one time or another been in general agreement on kindred concepts. The article used one misleading trick after another to convey the impression that anyone who shared George Washington’s belief in an armed and prepared citizenry, as essential to that individual responsibility and limited Government, was some form of crack pot. Yet it never addressed the underlying issues or mentioned that George Washington was the foremost champion of the ideas that those being smeared had advocated.
Although the tie between a respectable group being smeared and eccentrics on a tangent, is usually a common opposition to some gross excess on the Left, another favored tactic is to link anyone who expressespride in his racial heritage with those who spew hatred against others. The target most favored by the SPLC is, of course, the Conservative Southern Anglo-Saxon/Celtic strain of Christians: Those who still refuse to apologize for holding traditional views similar to the Founding Fathers. Slandering this group is not only an absurd confusion of love with hate; it is the same vicious technique that the master Socialist demagogue Adolph Hitler used so effectively in destroying all individual freedom in Germany. Let us look briefly at the ADL, the last group to be discussed, and then return to the techniques of the German Dictator. "
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There’s nothing more to say than I’m backing Joe, Sasori and Mickey.
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